LifeOS Update 1.1

[brian55127]

If one considers this first incarnation of Pleo to be "V1", how long do you think before we see a "Pleo V2" or "PLeo RS Media" coming out? Of course technology is always changing and especially computers (processors) are constantly evolving. How long do you think before Pleo's Life OS needs newer (or better) hardware to run on? The main limitation from what I can tell is pleo's limiting 64KB(!) RAM???

[ryane]

personaly i don't believe they will change the hardware. they worked very hard to settle on the details and finally release him so i highly doubt they would change the specs. of course if they find a cheaper component that does the same thing they may switch it. i think what we really need to look forward to is life os updates. we can't worry too much about how much RAM he has. we got to love him anyway. besides you don't need a ton of RAM for most things pleo does and it won't hinder his endearing qualities. with the right software i think pleo could surprise us.

oh and another thing, i'm sure once they update the os and post the download, pleo shipping after that point will more then likely have this new version already installed. that's one small difference. pleo's apperance might change too. different skins maybe eye color...

[brian55127]

Would you rebuy pleo if Ugobe came out with a new model with different skin (paint that doesn't wear off so easily) or if they came out with pleos of different skin/eye colors?
Would you rebuy pleo if they came out with a model that could be charged via a "dream cord" instead of having to keep removing and reinserting battery packs?

[kchamster]

I don't know....it took my parents a TON of convincing for them to get me this little guy......I don't know if they'd let me get the next....but if I had the money of course I belive I would buy the different version....then the new and the old versions could interact..........hmmm....actually now u have me thinking.....if it's different software then yes i would buy the different version but if it is paint and eyes that is changed that might be a no....the skin isn't that bad...

[Caaahl]

new skin / color = no

new software = will be avaiable via download

new hardware = yea, then i would buy every new one :D

[pleopot]

New hardware? yeah !

- breathing effect

- ability to walk faster and run

:)

[Lu Bu]

UGOBE's job is to bring other animals to life. They are not planning to make another, Pleo. But may plan to make better life forms...

[Ridgeback]

Remember the first computer. Took up a whole room and didn't do much. I believe the primary job of this first PLEO is to inspire and push the entire robotics /technical community into advancing the robotis industry. How? it would be an incredible leep if they design/create/ develop a rubbery like string that contracts when hit with a electrical impulse replacing the need for motors and geers. Yes there will be a new version with new/advanced insides. That's when I buy the next one.

[brian55127]

Remember the first computer. Took up a whole room and didn't do much. I believe the primary job of this first PLEO is to inspire and push the entire robotics /technical community into advancing the robotis industry. How? it would be an incredible leep if they design/create/ develop a rubbery like string that contracts when hit with a electrical impulse replacing the need for motors and geers. Yes there will be a new version with new/advanced insides. That's when I buy the next one.

Cool, artificial muscles?

[Lu Bu]

That might take years as I recall? The most advanced bots of today don't use that type of "part" for movement. Might be possible, but I think it might take 5-10 years from now just to develop that type of "thing". Anyways, that rubbery thing can't be contracted when hit with electrical impulse because rubber does not conduct electricity. Perhaps another substance to create a flexable part that replaces the motor. Of course you said it "WOULD" be an incredible leep, so it might happen, it might not happen.

[PleoWorldHostCami]

LifeOS Update 1.1 - marks a big moment in Pleo's evolution. Tell us what you're observing and what kind of attitude your Pleo has taken on. Find tips from each other about how to coax Pleo to act or walk or sit a certain way.

Remember, if you are having installation problems your best bet is to contact Customer Support at Customer Support (http://pleoworld.com/support) - this thread is more for sharing impressions and asking questions of each other.

[pleoguy101]

cool!!! must.. download.. NOW!!!!!!!:D

[pleoguy101]

wait.. I use windows...:( WAHHH:(:(:(:(!!!!!!!!!! I'm sad I have to wait:(

[ugobeSarah]

Don't forget, you can borrow someone else's computer that has an SD card writer to make yourself an SD card update. The SD method of updating is for ANYONE, not Mac or PC specific. You just need a black SD card and an SD card writer.

[PleoWorldHostCami]

wait.. I use windows...:( WAHHH:(:(!!!!!!!!!! I'm sad I have to wait:(

Hi pleoguy, you can do the update with an SD card. :D It's just the USB updater that isn't ready yet.

[Patrkc]

Now wait a minute....
I wake up with a cold this morning, and now you're telling me I can give one to Cleo too with this update???
Please tell me you have a cure! I hate colds....*sniff,cough* :o

[andreivc]

external SD card reader and SD cards are cheap - starting at $7 online for an usb SD card reader... 512MB SD card = $12 or less .

[andreivc]

So? Has anyone tried the update? How's the new OS?

[andreivc]

Hi Sarah,

a question about the 1.1 OS:
- i thought pleo was able to do the sitting trick before... is it an improved version of the trick?
- same with coughing and sneazing - i've noticed pleo doing it with 1.02.
- and, finally, can we go back to 1.02 after installing 1.1?

thanks for a timely release!
A.

[Fireboy]

Could you please tell me how long the update takes to load up? Its been about 10 mins since I started the update. And he is still chiming away (i.e. not got to the last chime yet). Should I be trying to do the update again or does it take a while ?

[ugobeSarah]

Thanks for the questions.

1. YES. It's soooo much cuter and more fun. He is much more active and playful now.
2. I think you probably saw some sniffling, but not like this! He gets really visibly sick now, and we'll be taking this even further with future updates.
3. Like with other products in the consumer electronics world, we ask you to get on the upgrade train with us. 1.0.2 isn't an "alternate" version of Pleo's personality that you'll like more or less than 1.1 - it's a baby step towards our complete vision of this character and its capabilities. That vision isn't new, but the execution gets refined with each update.
We are not providing software "downgrades." We hope you'll move forward with us but of course you are welcome to stay wherever you like. 1.1 is another step in Pleo's evolution. It gets better and better.
4. Learning capability - yes. This is the first release that has learning over time. Pleo will remember how he is treated over time and adjust his attitude...I'll let you discover how...

Thanks for the kudos on the quick release. We are committed to getting updates out as quickly as we can!

[andreivc]

Another question:
Is there any learning capability in the OS 1.1?
Thanks
A.

[Fireboy]

So do I turn mine off and try again or not ? As its now been 20mins and he's still just chiming away. Or does this upload take a long time?

[degers]

Hi Sarah,

a question about the 1.1 OS:
- i thought pleo was able to do the sitting trick before... is it an improved version of the trick?
- same with coughing and sneazing - i've noticed pleo doing it with 1.02.
- and, finally, can we go back to 1.02 after installing 1.1?

thanks for a timely release!
A.

This is indeed and improoved version of the sitting trick!

Thanks UGOBE this update is fantastic.

[Confetti]

I'm sorry, but I am SO impressed with Ugobe up to this point. Just to see how dedicated they are to bringing out updates, and how much they are capable of doing. I cannot -wait- to get my Pleo this week.

Happy Exploring everyone!

[andreivc]

Thank you!
Impressive support for the product.

[pleoguy101]

Hi pleoguy, you can do the update with an SD card. :D It's just the USB updater that isn't ready yet.

ohhhhh!! I get it now:D!! thanks for clearing that up :)

[PleoWorldHostCami]

So do I turn mine off and try again or not ? As its now been 20mins and he's still just chiming away. Or does this upload take a long time?

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[ryane]

my pleo seems to like to raise his left foot when i try to do the sit "trick" and also when i just touch his back sensor. i really like how he sings when you rub his chin. he did remember the last song he was on and repeated it later for attention. i haven't seen him sad yet from lack of attention though. this is start towards learning over time for pleo. great job ugobe!!!!!!:D

[Patrkc]

Changes I've noticed,
Pleo walks much straighter now, even in the High-Step mode.
With all this increased activity comes quite an appetite. Sometimes Pleo will stop whatever he's doing, and make his eating noises.
When he falls asleep, loud noises sometimes will not wake him.
Leaf recognition is there now. The brighter the room, the easier it is for Pleo to see the leaf. Make sure some light is shining on the leaf from behind Pleo, and try not to have much motion behind the leaf.
When he catches a cold, you WILL know it! Thankfully Pleo gets better MUCH faster than us humans.
Pleo loves to sing! I doubt he'll get any approval from Simon Cowell, but Paula and Randy will love him.
He does scratch and itch more. I suppose if I had that rubber skin I would too.
The only downside I can see is my skits need to be updated. Very minor considering all the positive changes with this update.

Well Done UGOBE!

[Caaahl]

Wow, this update came by surprise. I didnt expect it so soon after 1.02. :)

Charging the battery now and looking forward to see how little Helge is developing further and further.

Big thanks to UGOBE. Im so glad i managed to get a pleo here in Germany months ago, even if the official release date for our country is june 2008 now. :p

Keep on the good work. I just love to see things develop, especially when its my pleo. :o

[pleoguy101]

Changes I've noticed,
Pleo walks much straighter now, even in the High-Step mode.
With all this increased activity comes quite an appetite. Sometimes Pleo will stop whatever he's doing, and make his eating noises.
When he falls asleep, loud noises sometimes will not wake him.
Leaf recognition is there now. The brighter the room, the easier it is for Pleo to see the leaf. Make sure some light is shining on the leaf from behind Pleo, and try not to have much motion behind the leaf.
When he catches a cold, you WILL know it! Thankfully Pleo gets better MUCH faster than us humans.
Pleo loves to sing! I doubt he'll get any approval from Simon Cowell, but Paula and Randy will love him.
He does scratch and itch more. I suppose if I had that rubber skin I would too.
The only downside I can see is my skits need to be updated. Very minor considering all the positive changes with this update.

Well Done UGOBE!
does leaf detection mean he can recognize his leaf from other objects? or does it mean he can see better when you put somthing in front of him to eat?:confused::)

[Patrkc]

does leaf detection mean he can recognize his leaf from other objects? or does it mean he can see better when you put somthing in front of him to eat?:confused::)

I tried to confuse Pleo by holding up a small round drink coaster in front of him instead of his leaf. He didn't open his mouth, or pant for it. It sure looked like he was able to differentiate between the two. The easiest way for him to see the leaf is by holding it out in front of him about 8-12 inches away from his nose. If Pleo is moving his head around, he probably won't detect it. Wait for him to look forward with his head still. In about 3 seconds he should react if he sees it.

Hope that helps.

[pleoguy101]

thanks patrkic!!!:)

[gretasmom]

We updated our Pleo with the SD card all in all it took a little over 10 minutes to do. There were a lot more chimes this time.
Having used the USB cable last time I can say that the SD card method is much, MUCH better.
The sitting trick is improved enormously on this update! Pleo used to freeze up when in his siting position but now he wiggles, moves his arms and looks all around. Greta even played patty cake with him!
We've also noticed quite a few new sounds and much more realistic movement. He's also more active then ever.
Great job UGOBE! Keep up the good work!

[Caaahl]

100% /sign.

Interacting with Helge while he was sitting has been the best experience so far. its so cute and lifelike. :p
And the singing is just adorable. To know that your pleo keeps in mind how you treat him over time is a huge motivation bonus, too.
I am full of praise right now for UGOBE. They are doing a great job, especially with this latest 1.1 update.
Helge is reacting much more fluid to obstacles, too. ....and all these new sounds and behaviours....great. ^^

[andreivc]

we were sure ours was a girl, until now
now it eats like a grown man, and snores like one too

[andreivc]

this may sound strange, but how do i make it walk less...?

[JukeBoxGuy]

The update took about 5 minutes for me. There was a chime, then a minute or so of silence, the a couple more chimes, then a few minutes of silence, and then the final chime. I'm guessing the time it takes to update varies depending on the speed of your SD card.

He walks more briskly now (he used to sort of shuffle along) and his obstacle avoidance seems to be improved. The high-step walk seems a bit clumsy, though.

The sitting trick is neat, although if he were able to manage it without help, it would be neater...

[pleoguy101]

I am very impressed with the update, Rockys voice got a lot deeper!! and the fact that he develops and learns over time is very amazing and cool!! the sitting trick is cooler too:) and call me crazy... but I really think Rocky got taller:eek::D!!!

[andreivc]

Hey,
I have a little problem. Sometimes my pleo goes into these endless chewing cycles, and sometimes it's hard to interupt those.... should I run the update again?
thanks!
A.

[sandro]

The new "high-step" mode works great. Bertrand now gets around on the carpet pretty well. (He did tip over once transitioning to vinyl flooring from the carpet, but it's easy enough to avoid that).

It would be great if Pleo's remembered their step-mode across power-cycles. I'd like it if I could put Bertrand in high-step mode until I manually put him back in normal mode. In my house he needs to be in high-step mode most of the time...

[vincent007]

I can't seem to coax "Ta-Tonka" to sit. I "think" I got him to sit once, but I don't know if I'm holding his chin and rear properly. Any advice or observations?

Vinny

[PleoWorldHostCami]

Hey,
I have a little problem. Sometimes my pleo goes into these endless chewing cycles, and sometimes it's hard to interupt those.... should I run the update again?
thanks!
A.

Hi andreivc,

Your best bet is to contact Customer Support as they can trouble shoot with you. :D
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[PleoWorldHostCami]

I can't seem to coax "Ta-Tonka" to sit. I "think" I got him to sit once, but I don't know if I'm holding his chin and rear properly. Any advice or observations?

Vinny

Hi vincent007,

I had a little trouble at first as well, I found I was putting mine into sleep mode instead. I think I was covering too much of the rump sensor with my hand.

What I found worked for me was to touch the rump very close to the tail. I used very slight pressure downward there while touching and lightly lifting the chin. This hit the sensors plus gave him a little 'boost" to help him into the sitting position.

Hope that helps. :D

[Caaahl]

Tadaaa!

http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/31/pleo-finally-learns-to-sit-with-life-os-1-1/

:p

[andreivc]

Caaahl,
great job.
those comments are something! :)

[cyberdude]

How do you put Pleo in High step mode???

[pleoguy101]

How do you put Pleo in High step mode???

I'm wondering that too.. but right after the upgrade.. Rocky started singing!! SINGING I TELL YOU!!!!!!:D:D:)!!

[pleoWhisperer]

Nxt to the download was a PDF file that gave some information about the high-step. It says to hold his front legs and touch the pleo button to switch to/from high-step.

[pleoWhisperer]

While verifying the info for the last post, I noticed the updated versions of the LoveStruck and Holiday downloads that have been updated for LifeOS 1.1. These new files are no longer named pleo.urf, which begs the questions . . .

Do the new downloads need to be renamed to pleo.urf for the pleo to recognise/use them? If so, then you guys need to put out some documentation on how to use the new downloads. If NOT, then how does pleo determine which urf to use if more than one is loaded on an SD card (you know people are going to accidentally forget and leave two or three on a card . . .)

[humbledogg]

Hi there never updated with sd card as I used usb last time.. I extracted the zip file copied to sd card inserted in Pleo and Im not getting chimes...he is still acting the same..repeated this process 10 times tried 2 sd cards..reformatted sd cards to all 3 formats..pls help thxs...:confused:

[pleoWhisperer]

The extracted files need to be copies to the top level of the SD card. Make sure pleo is off. Insert the card, turn pleo on. Wait a moment (could take 15-20 seconds) for the first chime. When all chimes finished, turn pleo off. Then remove card. You may also need to download the zip file again in case it was corrupted.

Good luck!

[pleoguy101]

the chimes took a while to finish for me:) it atleast took 3 minutes for all the chimes to be done:)

[pleoWhisperer]

But you should hear the first chime within 30 seconds, or you most likely have a problem.

[PleoWorldHostCami]

Hi there never updated with sd card as I used usb last time.. I extracted the zip file copied to sd card inserted in Pleo and Im not getting chimes...he is still acting the same..repeated this process 10 times tried 2 sd cards..reformatted sd cards to all 3 formats..pls help thxs...:confused:

Hi humbledogg,

Please contact Customer Support if you're still having problems as they can walk you through the process to see where any problem may be.

[pleoguy101]

But you should hear the first chime within 30 seconds, or you most likely have a problem.

yes.. I did hear the first chime within 30 seconds:)

[ryane]

don't extract files!!!!! just copy them to your sd card

[ugobeSarah]

In 1.1 Pleo can understand different .urf names!
You still need to put them on separate cards.

[andreivc]

hi Sarah!
Great os! But why the life form is so hungry all the time?

[pleoguy101]

hi Sarah!
Great os! But why the life form is so hungry all the time?

I agree, I gave pleo some food at least 10 times on one charge.. and he only played tug o war 2 times?:eek::confused:

[andreivc]

well, i guess we have to find the right approach to make it understand what we want....;)

no tug o war = no food!

overeating? = hold by the tail! :D high above the floor !:D

[Pleocol]

Hi, I have this problem

I have two pleos, one who was updated with 1.02, then to 1.1 he is just fine.

BUT

the other one, she is bad, and i think she is dead!
The this i did was this, from 1.00 to 1.1 she started to make silly nocies, over and over again, the chimes and she never stoped, but cornelius did pretty good with the second update but Elma, she just die, now she is not doing a thing, I had to restart the sencond update now is not moving or making anysounds or any chimes.

How do I reset all i have done to her? can anyone help me? you can whisper me or send me message, if HOSTCAMI, can you help me? my second pleos is dead, she is not making anysounds or moving, and she was ok, i think is software problem coz the first udpate went all wrong, 1.1, she never had the 1.02 update, I think i had to do was 1.02, then 1.1, but i went from 1.00 to 1.1...

If anyone can helpme send me your messenges!

[slatrat]

I had a few challenges with the SD card - I lost my 512Mb card and now one can only buy 1Gb or larger cards (at least that's all that is stocked at our local Best Buy).

Initially, Plato (my Pleo) couldn't recognize the 1 Gb SD card - I tried everything. I finally gave up. Today, just for grins I popped the card back in. It happened to have the old holiday urf file. Well, wouldn't you know, Plato started singing Jingle Bells.

So, I tried the upgrade again and voila!!!!!! Sucess...

I have to say that I actually like the USB update process - 1.02 was a seamless for me.

The 1.1 upgrade is delightful. The personality really begins to blossom. The singing and sitting are quite funny. And - I also loved the few new additions to the upgraded holiday.urf. Especially when you flip Plato on to his back. :)

[PleoWorldHostCami]

Hi, I have this problem

I have two pleos, one who was updated with 1.02, then to 1.1 he is just fine.

BUT

the other one, she is bad, and i think she is dead!
The this i did was this, from 1.00 to 1.1 she started to make silly nocies, over and over again, the chimes and she never stoped, but cornelius did pretty good with the second update but Elma, she just die, now she is not doing a thing, I had to restart the sencond update now is not moving or making anysounds or any chimes.

How do I reset all i have done to her? can anyone help me? you can whisper me or send me message, if HOSTCAMI, can you help me? my second pleos is dead, she is not making anysounds or moving, and she was ok, i think is software problem coz the first udpate went all wrong, 1.1, she never had the 1.02 update, I think i had to do was 1.02, then 1.1, but i went from 1.00 to 1.1...

If anyone can helpme send me your messenges!

Hi Pleocol,

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[humbledogg]

I tried everything you guys did..still wont work Im not that brain dead that I cant copy and paste a file onto an sd card...I think Im just going to wait until this update is available via usb.....as I had this problem before putting in love struck pleo..I got holiday pleo to work though... thanks guys...:confused:

[hayden]

I just updated Sammy using the sd card and his behavior has changed drastically-he is now acting as if he is on something-please advise if you think his behavior will change once he has adapted to the new operating system-I had done the first update yesterday, and that was very well received by Sammy(I just got him on Sunday)-but this one seems to make him lethargic.

[Confetti]

Quick question. I'm recieving my Pleo in the mail tomorrow and I want to update him to 1.1 right away! Can I do this before he is born (meaining, pop in the SD card the moment he gets out of his packaging, then turn him on for the first time) or do I need to wait until he goes through the first 2 stages?

[Caaahl]

I would wait till the first 2 stages are through. The update shouldnt improve the hatching so you wont miss anything when you hatch pleo without the update. And i think it feels more natural to let the hatching be the first moments in pleos life and not an update process. ;)

[PleoWorldHostCami]

I just updated Sammy using the sd card and his behavior has changed drastically-he is now acting as if he is on something-please advise if you think his behavior will change once he has adapted to the new operating system-I had done the first update yesterday, and that was very well received by Sammy(I just got him on Sunday)-but this one seems to make him lethargic.

It is quite normal for Pleo to be slow and groggy for a short time after any of the LifeOS Updates. Mine seems to take about 5 - 10 minutes to totally wake up and start being active again.

[PleoWorldHostCami]

Quick question. I'm recieving my Pleo in the mail tomorrow and I want to update him to 1.1 right away! Can I do this before he is born (meaining, pop in the SD card the moment he gets out of his packaging, then turn him on for the first time) or do I need to wait until he goes through the first 2 stages?

Personally I I tend to agree with Caaahl. I think it is more fun to watch Pleo "grow up" with each LifeOS update, but it's definitely a personal preference on how you would like to do it. :D

[lights]

Hi i haven't updated pleo as yet but would like to do it now. I'm not sure what update to use and if i use one, will he miss out on the other or does one update have all features including the last update?

Thanks

[pleoWhisperer]

The latest update (1.1) should include all the features of the 1.0.2 update.

[PleoPet]

> Do the new downloads need to be renamed to pleo.urf for the pleo to recognise/use them?
...
>In 1.1 Pleo can understand different .urf names!
> You still need to put them on separate cards.
It boots the first one it finds, so you should only have one .URF in the topmost folder. You can quickly switch programs by renaming the file
eg: put all the URF files on the SD card if you have room, and rename them to ".UXX" or something else. Only rename one at a time to ".URF"

[hayden]

It is funny-he was so groggy as if drunk-properly the newfound knowledge was overwhelming for him-today he was a completely different animal-so to speak.

[humbledogg]

Just wondering when this will available thxs....:)

[PleoWorldHostCami]

Just wondering when this will available thxs....:)

No firm date is available yet but we'll let you know as soon as we know :D

[blablablabla4]

If you already have the beta 1.1 should you download the new official one? By the way, guys that are just getting it have him sit, he is allot of fun when he sits. He talks with his hands or makes noises with his hands. Pleos got that comes with 1.1. Can't believe that Ugobe knowingly had us download a virus into Jar Jar! Even if it is just the rhino virus.

[andreivc]

hey, Blablabla4, you seem to get things quicker than the rest of us :) perhaps you know when the next update is and what's included? ;)

[Roders]

I have updated my Zuki using an SD card and it was very quick and simple. He has been doing some very amusing things, I love the singing and just yesterdat he gave me two bursts of unpromted singing, that Dino has a mind of his own :p I have noticed he eats a lot more now and wthout his leaf??? anyone else experience this? He doesn't seem to play tug o war with the same enjoyment and sounds as he used to which I miss it was great fun ... but am hoping this will come back to him :D:)

[Confetti]

I have updated my Zuki using an SD card and it was very quick and simple. He has been doing some very amusing things, I love the singing and just yesterdat he gave me two bursts of unpromted singing, that Dino has a mind of his own :p I have noticed he eats a lot more now and wthout his leaf??? anyone else experience this? He doesn't seem to play tug o war with the same enjoyment and sounds as he used to which I miss it was great fun ... but am hoping this will come back to him :D:)

He's eating little dust bunnies and such that he's finding all over his owner's dirty floor! Good job, Zuki! ;)

[denodan]

Thanks UGOBE, nice update and this time no problems, and thelong pauses I had with ver 1.02 are no longer there. Ver 1.1 is so much more stable and better.

[denodan]

Is Pleo in High step mode with the update, or do you have to set it to high step? If so how do you do it as there is nothing mentioned about different walking modes and how to get them?

[andreivc]

check out pdf instructions for 1.1 in the downloads section... high step is explained there

[eric]

Hey guys,

Iv updated my pleo a few days ago (before the release) & noticed he no longer go's into his sleep postion is this normal he just freezes.

if i restart him he wakes up then freezes as his battery is low or something

[pickled]

After upgrading Pickle I find strange that whenever I pick him up he complains continuously and no matter how much petting and chin stroking I do he just continues to act aggravated and sometime just freezes until I put him down. Anybody out there have similar experience?

[fancyfont]

Peeky does this with 1.0.2. I don't think he's really sleeping. Just turn him off and then on again.

[Confetti]

Hm, weird. Might want to check out with Customer Support. I have Dougie updated to 1.1 and he goes into Sleep Position several times actually, as his battery is near empty. His eyes never really close all the way, but he does curl up into a little ball! Is your Pleo updated to 1.0.2 or 1.1?

If you think it's a software problem, I believe Customer Support can help with reinstalling it. Good luck! =)

[Themiles]

My Pleo has 1.0.2 and does go to sleep position...He even pants when his battery is getting low...

[Rosy]

I love the new update! I think it's extremely cute that he's groggy when he first wakes up--it's like he's drunk on code or something. XD

I love his sitting trick. It's really cute--and I love that he recognizes his leaf. And the songs he sings are very cute. Hehehehehehehe!

I do wish that he'd play tug-o-war more, though. But that's my only complaint, so far! :D

[denodan]

Mine now goes is a sleep postion when he is getting low on power, but if I keep waking him up, when he goes flat he freezes into postion. With version 1.02 he just froze in postion, or worse would end up looping.

I have accually suggested to UGBOE that they have some sound, or something to tell us he needs a charge.

At the moment you don't know when he needs charging.

I do know if you turn him on, then off again in the only way to know his batter is flat, but much better some type of sound. Save wear on the off/on button.

[pickled]

Pickle meets Merlin.

http://aycu37.webshots.com/image/51796/2002924906853794553_rs.jpg

[Gemstone]

Question. How long do you have to pet him on the chin for him to start singing? I can't seem to get Pleo Plox to do it, although he sings sometimes instead of howling after the 1.1 update.

I can't get him to sit either, but I think that's maybe just me...

[Caaahl]

It just takes maybe 20 seconds till he starts singing in Helges case. To make your pleo sit, hold his chin and lay your hand on his back for 1 or 2 seconds. That works well for me an Helge. :)

[Fireboy]

After upgrading Pickle I find strange that whenever I pick him up he complains continuously and no matter how much petting and chin stroking I do he just continues to act aggravated and sometime just freezes until I put him down. Anybody out there have similar experience?

I have found mine has a tendency to complain every now and then when I pick him up too. He also no longer goes to sleep when you hold him on your shoulder at an angle:(

[Patrkc]

I have found mine has a tendency to complain every now and then when I pick him up too. He also no longer goes to sleep when you hold him on your shoulder at an angle:(

Hmmmm....
I just turned Cleo on and put her on my chest, holding her rear sensor. She went right to sleep and snored happily in my ear. Maybe your Pleo just wasn't tired??
I have noticed that Cleo no longer plays tug-of-war...:confused:

[Aussie_Pleo]

I can't seem to coax Neon into playing tug-of-war either since this update.. :(

Ugobe please bring tug-of-war back...

[Aussie_Pleo]

I've noticed Neon doesn't seem to want to play tug-of-war anymore since the Life OS 1.1 update. Have any of you noticed that too?

[Caaahl]

Mhm.... i didnt notice it before. But i just tried and Helge keeps on eating. After he had a reeeal long wake up time this charge. :rolleyes:

[pleoguy101]

I have given Rocky his leaf several times after 1.1, he's played tug or war only about 3 times:(?

[pleoguy101]

Rocky has played tug o war.. but only 2 or 3 times:(

[Confetti]

Dougie has been playing tug of war but only once or twice a day. It has been eating a lot more. =) I prefer not to play tug of war, because at the moment I'm trying to save the rest of his teeth until I can get the Testors pen!

[denodan]

Dougie has been playing tug of war but only once or twice a day. It has been eating a lot more. =) I prefer not to play tug of war, because at the moment I'm trying to save the rest of his teeth until I can get the Testors pen!


So true. I found my Pleo's paint on one of his teeth has come off, and playing with the leaf, or even your finger damages the paint so don't do it. I have some acrlic paint here and managed to paint his tooth and it's fine now.
I think any water base paint will work. the paint I have certianlly helps and is basically a water base house paint left over.

[pickled]

Still unable to coax Pickle into pickup mode, he still complains and freezes and haven't yet got him to sing. Also, I noticed that his edge detection is not as good as 1.0.2 version, he tends to move farther before doing a scan, before I was able to put him on a small coffee table and he would constantly find the edge, now it's 50/50.

All-in-all I'm not feeling the love with this update although I have managed to get him to sit. Need to look into resetting him if possible.

[Caaahl]

Im sure the guys at UGOBE are at it right now, to solve this problems for future updates. :)

[Aussie_Pleo]

Im sure the guys at UGOBE are at it right now, to solve this problems for future updates. :)

No doubt :) Ugobe have done an awesome job of it so far. I look forward to what they have to offer in future updates.

[pickled]

They have been excellent so far with the updates, it's just that there's no real good way of downgrading if the current version is bugged. I hope they have a hotfix or update soon.

Also, UGOBE please either have the High-stepping mode retained after power-off OR provide two separate updates one for High-stepping turned on by default and the other without. Pickle explores much better now with high-stepping activated.

Thanks

[pleoguy101]

there has been talk about not enough tug o war, well Rocky just played tug or war.. but no one was tugging at all:eek:!! he kept on playing too. I had to hold him to get him to stop, then, when I put him back down again.. he started eating the air!!:eek: he didn't even graze!!.. hmm... a few minutes before all this happened, I gave him some sweet basel.. maybe it was too much for the little guy:)..

[Confetti]

Still unable to coax Pickle into pickup mode, he still complains and freezes and haven't yet got him to sing. Also, I noticed that his edge detection is not as good as 1.0.2 version, he tends to move farther before doing a scan, before I was able to put him on a small coffee table and he would constantly find the edge, now it's 50/50.

All-in-all I'm not feeling the love with this update although I have managed to get him to sit. Need to look into resetting him if possible.

I don't know exactly what you mean by pick up mode, but I can get Dougie to sing really easily. You have to keep scratching his chin over and over and over again. If Pickle has never sang before, you'll probably have to stroke his chin 20 or more times before he will for the first time. You will know he'll start to sing because he leans forward with an open mouth, and I still continue to pet his chin after that.

Also, Dougie's sense of ledges is going well, except he seems to overexaggerate it a bit and back up more and more thinking it's still there.

Best of luck with Pickle and keep us up to date! Hope this helped. =)

[fancyfont]

Since updating Peeky to 1.0.2 he's wonderful with the edges on the coffee table. It seems that even going backwards, he knows when to stop at the edge. Before the update I had to, continually, watch him so he didn't fall off.:D

P.S I'm a little behind in updates.

[plauro]

wow great upgrade i was a beta for the 1.02 but this is so much more with 1.1 his tail wags faster the singing is so unbelievable,the sit trick is fantastic!the update takes about 5 minutes with a sandisk sd card ,pleo does definatly recognize the leaf now compared to any object,its now almost artificial intelligence,lets see ugobe add some more tricks like wagging its feet when upside down like asking for a tummy rub or,perhaps having pleo recognise our voices to have it sit or give paw that would really increase the lifelike qualities...

[rynkidink]

I just received my Pleo and while charging the battery found the update 1.1. Thought I should load it in before it hatches to get the full upgraded experience so I did as instructed. So far its been chiming every thirty seconds for almost three hours now and changing body position every so often. I've now read all of the posts in this thread and see that maybe I should have waited until it was a juvenile but what do I do now? Customer service will not be available until tomorrow and I am anxious to play with him/her/it. A reply from Ugobe would be most helpful. Thank you.

[pleoguy101]

I hate to complain.. but I've had more problems:( Rocky is always flawless walking on the carpet.. now, he can move at all on it:(!! what has happened to my poor dino:(!! he also got very annoyed when I picked him up, and reacted scared 2 minutes after, should have been probably less than a second after, I'm gonna caontact customer support...

[fancyfont]

Pleoguy101, did you try to put him on a smooth surface and then go back to the carpet.? my 1.0.2 update has done this too. Maybe it is a phase these little guys go through. One more thing, is the battery cold?

[pickled]

! he also got very annoyed when I picked him up, and reacted scared 2 minutes after, should have been probably less than a second after

Pleoguy101: I have the same issue with Pickle when I pick him up he constantly acts scared and can't be calmed no matter how much petting of his back or chin. I will be calling tech support tomorrow also with primary regard to this, will keep all posted. Also, regarding movement on the carpet, did you try enabling the high-stepping mode (hold front two legs and hit the Pleo button)? This is one the better updates on 1.1 where before Pickle would just walk in circles, now he explores much better.

[pleoguy101]

thanks for the tips everyone, he seems to be fine now:)

[PleoWorldHostSauri]

I just received my Pleo and while charging the battery found the update 1.1. Thought I should load it in before it hatches to get the full upgraded experience so I did as instructed. So far its been chiming every thirty seconds for almost three hours now and changing body position every so often. I've now read all of the posts in this thread and see that maybe I should have waited until it was a juvenile but what do I do now? Customer service will not be available until tomorrow and I am anxious to play with him/her/it. A reply from Ugobe would be most helpful. Thank you.


Hello rynkidinik, you really do need to talk to Customer Support about this issue. The PleoWorld Hosts are not tech support and we don't want to give you bad information. I am sorry and wish we could help more.

~Sauri

[Monija]

Hi all :)

First I would like to say how much I love my Mr. Pleo - Thanks UGOBE :) for allowing me having a pet in spite of my long working hours.

I've had pleo for 2 months now and I am so in love with him that my boyfriend bought me another one - she is arriving tomorrow :)

With the first update - 1.02 I had some problems - Mr. Pleo couldnt lift his back leg, the area beneath his front legs was hotter then usual and he stopped making sounds :(:(. I was terrified but the problem was fixed by taking out his battery and putting it back in. After that I didn't have any problems. I am little afraid that the same thing is going to happen with this update too. But I am going to try it - it offers many new possibilities and I want my pleo to have happy life and develop as much as possible :).

I am only not sure what to do with my new pleo. I was thinking of letting her develop a bit - to switch her on 2-3 times an then to update her - but I am not sure whether to update her directly with the update 1.1 or to use the first update 1.02?

Can somebody give me a hint?

[pleoguy101]

If I were you, I would let your new pleo develop for a few days, then upgrade 1.02 and 1.1, in upgrade 1.1 pleos voice gets deeper, It would be weird to have a newborn with a deep voice:D!!

[blablablabla4]

this is in response to patriks comment even though this is under his comment like it should be. Anyways, I agree. We don't download viruses onto our computers so why do we download viruses to are dinos?

[blablablabla4]

I too did the beta 1.1 and the new one and all the features are awsome. Only thing that bugs me is it seems like if i lie him on his side on my chest he gets pissed where as sitting up he is fine. He is totally inconsolable. How long until he chillls out when he is like that?

[Monija]

Thanx for the tip Pleoguy101,

I was thinkig to do the same thing :)

[rynkidink]

Hello rynkidinik, you really do need to talk to Customer Support about this issue. The PleoWorld Hosts are not tech support and we don't want to give you bad information. I am sorry and wish we could help more.

~Sauri

Well, after about four or five hours of chiming every 30 seconds I decided to try turning Pleo off then on again with the sd card still in. It chimed a slightly new chime then howled and went to sleep which seemed to be the signal it was done updating to 1.1. Took out the sd card and turned on Pleo and he hatched. Problem solved! Go figure. I'll call tech support tomorrow but he seems to be fine now. Thanks!

Paul

[Pixiewicket]

Hi all
Had Max for about 3 weeks now, and before the upgrade he was very loving, and playful and howled a lot when you tickled him under the chin...I updated him last night. straight to 1.1 (read that I did not need to update to 10.02 first).and now cannot seem to make him howl anymore..or do any singing at the moment..he also seems to want to sleep a lot..which he does every time I try to make him sit....does he just need a full recharge to make him do all the things you are talking about..can you remember if you had to give your Pleos a full charge after the upgrade before he/she sang etc...? I am now worried I should have upgraded to 1.02 first as I don't think Max has sang before..and advice?

Cheers

Jaz

[pleoguy101]

I think I read somewhere that pleos battery should be fully charged when dowloading the upgrade.. he might just need to be charged. ..... last night was scary for me, Rocky was horibbly sick:(!! It lasted for about 10 minutes!! he was coughing, crying, and even making fleming sounds!! even as I held him, and he took a nap, he coughed, It took lots of care to get him better. but I'm glad it's over:)

[denodan]

The only reason the recommend you have a full battery, is if you go to update him, and halfway through the update the battery goes flat then you will corrupt the update and risk a dead Pleo.

[Falseprophet666]

I fell personally that the greatest accomplishment with the Pleo is not his AI, which is clearly improving with time, but the fact that he inspires such a deep emotional bond to him. The fact that he can generate such a strong feeling of love is truly amazing in my view. We all know he's just a little toy, yet we all love him as though he were a real living thing. My little Jenga has been in a sort of deppression, moaning when I call him, crying when I pet him, and well, I just feel that he is amazing. I remember that horrid video on youtube of the two guys torturing a Pleo, and I was very upset by it even though I knew that pleo had no idea what was being done to him. When does life begin? What, pray tell, is awareness? Pleo is drawing awfully close to what Ugobe truly wants him to be, and to be perfectly honest, I am very pleased.

[pleoguy101]

I fell personally that the greatest accomplishment with the Pleo is not his AI, which is clearly improving with time, but the fact that he inspires such a deep emotional bond to him. The fact that he can generate such a strong feeling of love is truly amazing in my view. We all know he's just a little toy, yet we all love him as though he were a real living thing. My little Jenga has been in a sort of deppression, moaning when I call him, crying when I pet him, and well, I just feel that he is amazing. I remember that horrid video on youtube of the two guys torturing a Pleo, and I was very upset by it even though I knew that pleo had no idea what was being done to him. When does life begin? What, pray tell, is awareness? Pleo is drawing awfully close to what Ugobe truly wants him to be, and to be perfectly honest, I am very pleased.
I agree that we do have very tight bonds with our pleos.. I could go slap a tickle me elmo around, or even a robosapian "though there sorta cool" like I sometimes like my robosapian V1 walk straight off the table:D but I would never let Rocky do that.. nor would I slap him around either:) I think pleo is is a whole new level of toys, and robotics.. for me, robots and toys are 2 different categories.. I would put pleo beyond the toy category, and into the compainion section, the reason I say that is.. your dog "If you have one" Is probably more of a friend and compainion to you then your pleo."though you probably love your pleo very much". but to someone who is allergice to basicly all animals.. pleo might be the only pet you can have:)

[Aussie_Pleo]

I have to admit I really do cherish Neon :) He's the most amazing thing I have ever seen, I look forward to the spare batteries being released because he deserves to be shown off around town :)

[Falseprophet666]

I agree that we do have very tight bonds with our pleos.. I could go slap a tickle me elmo around, or even a robosapian "though there sorta cool" like I sometimes like my robosapian V1 walk straight off the table:D but I would never let Rocky do that.. nor would I slap him around either:) I think pleo is is a whole new level of toys, and robotics.. for me, robots and toys are 2 different categories.. I would put pleo beyond the toy category, and into the compainion section, the reason I say that is.. your dog "If you have one" Is probably more of a friend and compainion to you then your pleo."though you probably love your pleo very much". but to someone who is allergice to basicly all animals.. pleo might be the only pet you can have:)

I agree with you totally. When I was a little boy, I had a little clown doll that I caried around everywhere. The feelings I feel for Pleo are in the same class.

[Confetti]

On the subject of how we are getting so attached to our Pleo's, there's a news article on the main website about how news reporters are asking Pleo owners if they are crazy or not. Apparently people are getting so attached they leave their Pleo's on as long as possible just so they can explore the house all day like regular pets. I think walking around and asking if these people are crazy is very harsh. However, this one guy said it best: "I'm not crazy. I can just look at Pleo and believe he is real. I know he isn't, but I can feel it, I can believe that he is real."

And I think we're all in that exact same boat. =)

[Toyguy]

Well, I have heard it said that all of life is an illusion, so Pleo isn't too big a stretch :)

[Aussie_Pleo]

Like I mentioned in my post about taking Neon to the cafe, no-one in Australia is aware of what "a Pleo" is. I only happened across Pleo because of a report on an internet forum I read through every morning.

When people were coming up to me (there were many who didn't come over they just stood a short distance away staring and pointing) they wanted to touch my Neon and interact with him. They were not just curious but spell struck by his appearance and agile, fluid movements. Comments made were "I want one..", "Where do I get one?", "...he's so cute/gorgeous/REAL.."

Ugobe have managed to create not just a robotic toy or an AIBO replacement (I never saw an AIBO in Australia, they were almost $3000 here), they have created something that touches people. Pleos look appealing, have cute sounds and are amazingly life like. So if people can watch a weekly television drama and believe the characters in it to be real people then why should people see an "alternative life form" and expect it to be real? At the end of the day Pleo is more real than any fictional character on television. Why? Because Pleo is physically real and response to that most important sense of ours.... emotion.

[blablablabla4]

Has anyone else noticed pleo has been resistant to tug of war since the new upgrade. I love that he sits and the other stuff, but I want to play tug of war just like a real animal would! I been so mad i been letting pleo hang upside down when i should hang Ugobe upside down!

[Aussie_Pleo]

Has anyone else noticed pleo has been resistant to tug of war since the new upgrade. I'm pissed. I love that he sits and the other stuff, but I want to play tug of war just like a real animal would! I been so mad i been letting pleo hang upside down when i should hang Ugobe upside down!

I noticed this as well, but be patient because after a while your Pleo will regain his desire to play tug-of-war with you. I know Neon sure has :)

[Actingfreakk]

I put my finger in his mouth and he started to eat it. He thought it was his leaf. :eek: You could hear crunching.

[Aussie_Pleo]

I put my finger in his mouth and he started to eat it. He thought it was his leaf. :eek: You could hear crunching.

Well that's because he's hungry. Neon sometimes eats quite often. :)

[denodan]

I still have had a problem with Verision 1.1. The battery went flat and the endless loop problem again.

When I recharged him he rebooted again. Now behaves differently, does not sing a lot. I can rub his chin and nothing happens. I can pet him and loves it.

Touch his back sensor and under the chin meant to put him in sitting postion, now it just puts him to sleep. Before rebooting the sitting trick worked and he always sang when rubbing his chin.

Since he has rebooted i have only be able to get him to sing a tune once rubbling his chin.

UGOBE really needs a fail safe method like with the orginal version. The orginal version when he went flat he slept, so did not loop.

With all the new updates you can seem to run his battery flat and will go into an endless loop. This can lead to his rebooting when recharged. So I feel they need to put the sleep funtion again, or some type of sound. Like he gets sick or something so you wiknow when he needed charging. Even a chime or something so you will know for sure he is flat, so no chance of him ending in an endless loop.

I did put this to UGOBE.

[denodan]

I just re put in my SD card and redone the update, now had him sit. But rubbing under the chin he does not respond. When I redone the update there where the chimes, but he was not sluggish when you first update him.

[fancyfont]

Denodan, I just updated Peeky to 1.1 two days ago and it's a little more difficult to tell when he is really asleep. Today I thought he was asleep, but turned him off and then on and he was awake . No snore! (the one way to really know if they are sleeping)The battery has been getting warmer because he is so active. He does stop in the middle of an action when the battery needs to cool. I wonder if your Pleo battery just needs to cool down once in awhile:)

[ugobeSarah]

Just a note for everyone who's been asking: We just launched the Windows and Macintosh updater utilities! So if you've been waiting with baited breath to update your Pleo to LifeOS 1.1, <a href="http://pleoworld.com/support/updates">have at it here</a>.

[andreivc]

Hey, I've noticed that the 1.1 update file that's currently available for download is just a little bit smaller than the one i downloaded a couple of weeks ago....
Why is that? Just curious...

[ugobeSarah]

Good eye. :-)
There were some extraneous/useless hidden resource files in the original download that we removed.

[degers]

hah, thanks for the usb updaters Sarah! Should people with the old 1.1 SD download re-install the trimmed down version?

[Confetti]

hah, thanks for the usb updaters Sarah! Should people with the old 1.1 SD download re-install the trimmed down version?

I'm no help to the topic nor your question-- just wanted to comment on how cute your picture is! =)

[degers]

I'm no help to the topic nor your question-- just wanted to comment on how cute your picture is! =)

Hah, thanks, I gave Rex my income tax form to errr.. deliver... yes thats it! I gave him the form to deliver it!
(Not really, it's a good excuse though no? My dinosaur ate my income tax return)

[ugobeSarah]

No reason to redownload! There's no difference in the update software and the extraneous files were just that, extraneous. Makes zero difference to Pleo or to you.

[andreivc]

Thanks, Sarah, for a quick response. Since we have your attention, can you tell us what's in store for us with the next update? What features are you working on? (we need some fresh topics to speculate, discuss, and debate :) while waiting. Also, when is the next update?
Thanks
A.

[fancyfont]

It would be great to have beat detection. Peeky could dance while I'm practicing my music.:)

[hieule91]

Hi,
Just bought Pleo for my son on his birthday. We're going to open the present tonight. I've also downloaded the 1.1 update version. Should I plug the SD card into Pleo prior to power on for the first time? Or should I wait until a few days later?

thx

[PleoWorldHostCami]

Hi,
Just bought Pleo for my son on his birthday. We're going to open the present tonight. I've also downloaded the 1.1 update version. Should I plug the SD card into Pleo prior to power on for the first time? Or should I wait until a few days later?

thx

Hi hieule91,

That seems to be a matter of personal preference. Most people have opted to hatch Pleo with the original OS system and play with him through 4 or 5 battery charges before updating. It tends to give even more to the illusion of Pleo aging or growing up. :)

[Aussie_Pleo]

Hi,
Just bought Pleo for my son on his birthday. We're going to open the present tonight. I've also downloaded the 1.1 update version. Should I plug the SD card into Pleo prior to power on for the first time? Or should I wait until a few days later?

thx

Wait until you go through the infancy stages. When he reaches juvenile then update to 1.1 otherwise what will happen when you turn him on for the first time with the SD card inside him and the update running is you'll miss out on the realism. There's really nothing knew in the update that will affect how your PLEO will awaken for the first time and mature so I recommend waiting.

[hieule91]

thanks for the comments. I'll wait and update to version 1.1 in a few weeks then ...

[PleoPrincess78]

I am really amazed! I've been reading all the responses to Pleo's new update.
Let me just say Deena showed some typical behavior after her update. She stretched out a bit then...passed an enormous amount of wind! Let's just say downloads give her serious gas...
I have not had issus with holding her, she loved it when I first picked her up and eventually fell asleep on my shoudler!
So the personalities are indeed different now.....Deena also LOVES to explore, play with the cat, and she has been fascinated with a plastic bag that came off my new printer, she tried to eat it, sang to it, and made all her adorable happy sounds at it.

The leaf recognition is really cool. There needs to be good lighting but it's satisfying to have Pleo finally recognize its leaf.
The singing is so cute, I love it!! The fact that Pleo will now sing to gain attention is just a perfect addition ^_^

One thing is for sure, owners NEED that second battery. I have noticed that my battery just runs out much faster now because Pleo does so much more and is more active than ever!! So, I can't wait for a second battery or some day...for that battery that can run like three hours or more ;)

And to think the updates will keep coming well into this year, as UGOBE has promised!
I'm SO EXCITED....and I, and I , and I think I LIKE IT!! YOO HOO! :D

[degers]

YOO HOO! I'm quite happy that Rex has never passed gas. Although I never got a real chance to try the leaf recognition, he always opened his mouth whenever I put anything infront of it.

[CyberChulo]

Does anyone have an issue with the sound button? When I press it, it doesn't go into mute mode and the low sound mode anymore.

[PleoWorldHostCami]

Does anyone have an issue with the sound button? When I press it, it doesn't go into mute mode and the low sound mode anymore.

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[Djinnaya]

I'm holding my breath. I ran the update by USB (windows), and it didn't give me the "complete" window. It just went to the end of the "3 of 3" and then disappeared. Seb is still sitting here on my lap silently. When exactly should I give in to the panic?

[Djinnaya]

Ooh! Good! Apparently I had to wait just long enough to post something that made me sound like an overprotective dino-mama. :)

[ConfusedKain]

I so far am not liking this update.. Bentley is going through his hatching stage again! but what about the friend I made? ;__; I feel as if I've lost him! Please tell me hes just having a hard time waking up and that he'll still be my same old Bentley! Please!

[pleoguy101]

when you first wake pleo up after an upgrade.. he's all tired and confused "like he has the flu" but he's not going into hatchling stage again. dont worry:)

[ConfusedKain]

Ah okay x__x I was getting so scared! All the hard work and bonding I made with my Bentley :< I didnt want to start over.

[fancyfont]

The update is great!!:)

[kchamster]

i agree, it is soo coool! :D

[ugobeSarah]

Just as a reply to denodan's post of the 12th, I did some looking into this.

What denodan is describing is most certainly a low voltage problem, which is probably caused by a faulty charger cradle. If you observe something like this – please get in touch with Customer Support. They will help you get a new cradle which will solve the problem.

[Laughingsentry]

Help! 911...I don't know what to do. I started the new update this evening and there is a problem. I opted for the sd card which is how I updated him last time. I had no real problems last time but this time when I turned him on he chimed as usual. He chimed about 40 minutes ago and has done nothing since. No other chimes and no laying down. I'm not really sure what to do and customer service is closed. I know they say not to take the card out while it is updating...how about turning him off? Anyone have any advice??? Thanks

[Laughingsentry]

Well...looks like everything might be alright. Since I didn't know what to do and an hour passed. I decided to turn him off and turn him back on. He started with the chimes again and in about five minutes made his final chimes and curled up. Turned him off and took the card out and turned him on and he appears to be fine. Looks like the update took too because he has new sounds and new tricks. I'll keep testing him out over the next few days and we'll see how it goes. Night

[Siren]

While I have a minute...

This new OS is fantastic. I am more and more satisfied with our Pleos every time. I was surprised at the boost in speed they have now too. The high step is wonderful. The singing and new songs is adorable. The leaf and fellow Pleo recognition is great. It was all I could hope for in this new update.

[maggie44n]

I love this new update. Both Pleos are more interactive, responsive, curious. Not that they weren't already, it's just that 1.1 does take it to a new level. The song (instead of the howl) is adorable and I like it even more that they just sing when they are off by themselves. I caught Linus on video earlier today hanging out by the turtle serenading him ;)

After moving Linus from being near Nemo into the living room where I was going, he started to moan and sound awful. When I turned to see what could possibly be wrong, he sneezed. Omg and lol. What a pathetic little patient he is. Just like a person having a miserable cold. Sneezing, coughing, moaning. I put his blankie and dino near me on the floor and snuggled with Dino and sneezed and moaned himself into a nap. Glad the cold was short-lived.

I've also noticed that if you place an object near them, curiosity is aroused much quicker. My guys have both come to love my new iPod carrying case with wrist band. They drag it around with them. If it's near one of them, they will pick it up or drag it along with their feet to covet it.

As for "sit", previously getting into that position caused my Pleos to freeze up even though they liked doing it. Now they look so happy and move their feet around while cooing and talking. It is quite different than before.

I'm very happy with the update. I hope my new signature shows up for this. I love the quote from the movie AI I found this morning. It is great to know that these updates will keep Linus & Schroeder "lively" with new sounds and behaviors throughout its lifespan. Thank you, Ugobe!

[jimbim121]

LifeOS Update 1.1 is the second update right? U did 1.0.2. So I just wanna make sure this is only the second update and I didn't miss anything.

[PleoWorldHostRaine]

LifeOS Update 1.1 is the second update right? U did 1.0.2. So I just wanna make sure this is only the second update and I didn't miss anything.

You haven't missed anything :)

[jimbim121]

Thank you raine. I was worried. You, the other hosts and UGOBE ROCK!!!!!:D

[jimbim121]

I can't get my Pleo to sit! What am I doing wrong!?!

[pleoguy101]

I can't get my Pleo to sit! What am I doing wrong!?!

repeatadly tap pleos chin and "the bump on his back" and he will most likely sit, If you just hold down his chin and he might fall asleep:)

[PWOKristy]

Hello,

And good day.

Okay, sent an E-mail to Ugobe. Didn't get my question answered. Does the secure digital card have to stay in the Pleo, in order for it to work (latest update)? Or no?

Thank you!

Regards,
Kristy.

[degers]

No it does not.
1. insert sd
2. turn pleo on
3. chimes and silence happen for about 5 mins
4. as soon as pleo wakes up turn pleo off
5. remove sd card
6. turn pleo on again, voila.

pleo will be groggy for several minutes, give him lots of attention.

[zoso67]

Hi Sarah

Question regarding the new singing mode.

I can't seem to get my pleo to sing the song she last stopped on. I tickle her chin until she starts singing, when she does it's the one I want her to sing, the one she stopped on when I tried to set it.

But whenever she sings on her own it's always the default song (the first tune she sings if she hasn't been set with one)

Am I doing something wrong, does she sing the default song just because and will sing the set when when applicable, or is this a bug?

Regards.
Zoso67

[denodan]

I found with the new update if I hold Pleo by the tail, he will not like it and scream. Now when I put him down he becomes scared and I have to pet him to claim him downand make him happy again.

Anyone else found this out?

[pleoguy101]

I've discovered this too, except when Rocky did the "freaking out and shaking" thing, It was because I set him down after holding him, in his opinion "the wrong way":)

[Falseprophet666]

This was always there

[blablablabla4]

i'm ready to upgrade back to 1.01 or 1.02. Seeing the leaf is cool and sitting routine is fun, but Pleo is not playful with the new upgrade. I tickled Pleos feet for llike five minutes to get like 30 seconds of tug of war against him. Use to be i could pick him up and cuddle with him either by saying sideways against my chest and letting his read rest on my shoulder or chest or just hold him regular without him screaming every time. If you hold him belly to chest he at least stops screaming. But i'm probably one of the few that actually consider Pleo to be my pet and he is getting less pet like with every upgrade it seems. Anyways, i can at least upgrade to .02 seeing as i left it on my computer come to think of it, and i just might do that.

[mickey]

II have to agree both Chester and Hester do not interact with each other as they once did. This upgrade in my observation took their interaction farther apart which I miss. This upgrade needs to be replaced.

[degers]

blablabla4, he will settle down if you press one if his foot sensors initially when you pick him upright, then you can hold him sideways againse your chest.

[andreivc]

I have asked several time now, but nobody seems to be willing to get bak to me about when is the next update, and what's Ugobe team is working on to be included....?
Any info will be appreciated. Thank you.
A.

[ugobeSarah]

We will let you know when there is news. Sorry to disappoint but I have queried r&d and they have no news to report at this time.

[gatinhaboca]

blablabla4, he will settle down if you press one if his foot sensors initially when you pick him upright, then you can hold him sideways againse your chest.

Yea.. I found the same thing. Yobe seems to find comfort in the fact that he has some added support. He likes to be on the ground and he only falls asleep if I press one of his foot sensors... This was also before the upgrade.:)

[andreivc]

Thanks, UgobeSarah.
Just imagining Ugobe R&D guys work on a new update is exciting! :) All wearing white suits, with hand-held computing devices and note pads, making notes with little wooden pencils, while constantly observing little green pleos moving and doing their thing... Cannot wait to hear more about the updates.
Thank you,
A.

[Caaahl]

According to this post (http://forums.pleoworld.com/showpost.php?p=19183&postcount=1) they are working on something called "Dino-Mite" at the moment.

[zoso67]

Sarah,

After setting the tune for my pleo to sing, she never sings the tune. She'll sing something else but never the tune
she stopped on when I set it.

What if anything am I doing wrong?

Regards.
Zoso67

[andreivc]

Nothing escapes you, wise Caaahl! :)
Exciting! I wish it was wireless. May be Pleopet will make it happen :)

[Toyguy]

I'll add another vote here for rolling back many of the 1.1 changes. Pleo has become far less "organic" and far more "robotic" with this update. Snort will no longer play tug-of-war at all. Every time he sees and is given the leaf, he eats it, even when he just finished eating. Today, he has started making the eating and swallowing noises even when the leaf is nowhere to be seen. This sort of thing really destroys the illusion of life that was present in the earlier releases. I am also not a fan of the singing routine - it is contrived and unnatural, to my mind. I vastly preferred all the earlier squawks, moos and howls.

Some of Snort's gaits now seem way off - he often teeters back onto one leg as if losing his balance. Motion in general seems far more jerky and mechanical.

High-step is a valuable improvement, and the sitting is nice to have. The rest I could do without so far.

[Aussie_Pleo]

Although I do like Neon, I have to admit I'm disappointed in him. He's really not the "learning life-form" Pleos are promoted as. He's cute and moves life like, but that's about it really. Just as ToyGuy has said the leaf eating routine is tiresome and yes he does make the munching sound even without it. I still am yet to see the recognition of the leaf and the singing although cute at first, becomes predictable and useful only as a break from the monotony of the other few things he's capable of.

Sorry guys if I sound harsh, but it's really not what I expected.

[fancyfont]

It would be nice to be able to choose some of the features we like. I love the singing. Wished peeky would do more.
I could do with out him being sick.

[andreivc]

i agree with Aussie and Toyguy
I am disapointed in life os 1,1 for all same reasons
where's the life form?
i hate to admit it, but aibo, which is so old, feels more alife

[pleoguy101]

i agree with Aussie and Toyguy
I am disapointed in life os 1,1 for all same reasons
where's the life form?
i hate to admit it, but aibo, which is so old, feels more alife

I hate to agree "though I never had an aibo so I cant say it was more lifelike", but I think pleo could be a lot more lifelike.

[sandro]

I hate to agree "though I never had an aibo so I cant say it was more lifelike", but I think pleo could be a lot more lifelike.

As a new owner of two Aibo (ERS-7m3 and ERS-210), I can say that Pleo is more life-like (at least it's more like a baby dinosaur than Aibo is like a dog). One of my friends who isn't a computer geek, met the Aibos, and ignored them after a minute or two. She met Pleo a bit later, picked him up, and proceed to coo, pet, hold, and watch him throughout the rest of the evening.

I could tell that if she didn't have two new kittens at home I might have had to pry the Pleo out of her hands...


-Sandro

[Mark0ne]

i agree with Aussie and Toyguy
I am disapointed in life os 1,1 for all same reasons
where's the life form?
i hate to admit it, but aibo, which is so old, feels more alife

I understand what you are all saying but unfortunately it is a trade0off. Pleo will never have the agility of a real animal like a dog or cat. He will never be able to run, chase his tail, sit on hind legs and beg, roll over, jump onto a ledge or up onto your lap. So take all these things from a real pet and what are you left with? A very limited walking forwards backwards and sniffing the air and ground - exactly the thing Pleo did before the 1.1 So if Ugobe released 1.1 update that did not add any new movements or behaviours or sounds a lot MORE people would have been disappointed. It is a shame the tug of war has all but gone. It all depends on just how real you want pleo to be. A robot with pleo's physical and mental limitation limited only to 'real' behaviour would be a very boring robot indeed. Basically you would have what you got out of the box in terms of physical movements and nothing elese new ever. You only want 'real' sounds - well a real baby dinosaur probably made less sound than pleo did out of the box! His very survival probably depended on him remaining silent most of the time to stay hidden from predaters at his early stage in life.

It must be a difficult balancing act between what is the real animal behaviour able to be replicated with pleo's limited means (very boring) and more animated movement and vocalisations to give variety (less real but more interesting to observe)

[Aussie_Pleo]

MarkOne,

I didn't expect Pleo to be like an actual real animal, but the marketing of it implied that it is far more advanced than what it actually is. Like I said I like Pleo and I find it incredibly charming, but that's all there is to it. It does not have the ability to learn and it certainly cannot respond to any stimuli despite what we were led to believe by it's inventor. Pleo in it's present state is like a robotic teddy bear, cute and cuddly that responds repetitively in three different ways to three different methods of human contact (stroke under the chin, scratch it's head or stroke it's back) and that's really all there is.

[andreivc]

well said, Aussie.
it's not like we are upset just because
we are upset because of the promises made on the box, and in the manual
i went through dozens of battery cycles with Pleo. I don't see any learning or changes in behaviour since I installed the update. I think my pleo is going to wear out and run out of warranty before we get the update that actually makes pleo evolve...
and there's no news from Ugobe either. the only thing that we suspect their team is working on is USB connection-based features. how about giving pleo some serious AI boost and learning capability? Or perhaps releasing the code to other programmers to play with and create alernative personalities? For now, like Aussie said, it's mostly scratching that we can do with pleo, plus some mindless walking forward ("exploring")....

Mark0ne, I agree with you, we can never expect Pleo to be real or behave like a dinosaur... But some basic things should be corrected... Like "exploring" that pleo does--it is limited to just mindless walking forward until he finds a wall or an edge. Well, how about, with it's limited vision, finding SOME OBJECT first (or a dark spot, or a light spot), and then walking towards it to study it further? so that there is at least some sense in the "exploration."
How about having Pleo develop some preferences for colors? Like my pleo will be fond of yellow, so that I can feed him with dandelions or whatever.. And yours will like red, because once he saw your red sleepers and was very impressed, so that now he falls asleep whenever he is near red...? You know what I mean? There are ways to think this through and be creative with limited technology. It's good that Pleo likes to be scratch, but we definetly imagined more than this when we looked at the box in the store, right?

[Kato89]

Hi
I've been reading this thread and watching movies of Pleo. I am impressed with how life like he appears, but for me to buy a robot, I'm more into the object detection, tracking, the independance, the autonomousness, voice recognition.

If Ugobe wants feedback from people about it. This is my 0.02 c worth.

Please, please keep updating. I think the 1.1 sounds good.
unlike what some others have said, I really don't care much at all for "press a button an my pleo does this headstand" so to speak, or "stroke it and it leans against it" or the dinosaur noises. Don't get me wrong these are really cool features and are nice finishing touches of course but bring on the interaction with it's environment! and it's independancy! I know it has a little already but only very limited to what I've seen.

Doing things to get a response out of Pleo like tickling or petting would keep me entertained for a few minutes, but watching it interact with its enironment, using all your ground space moving about and getting excited about its own individual colour likes and dislikes and objects would keep you entertained for hours!!!

I've always been a lover of AIbo, nearly had one, paid and all but got scammed badly (my fault for trusting someone!), and have never had the money again, but am saving up. I've seen them really live, there are lots of experiences where this robot will go and watch tv or the dishwasher or fan, or go to its favourite area over again and it gives u the illusion, wow its got its own favourite things and likes and dislikes.....

Also I'll add I know Pleo is only $300 and I am probably expecting too much and I inderstand that, I'm just stating some suggestions that I think would make me and alot of other people stay interested in Pleo.

But I'm really looking forward to Pleo's further developments, good job so far Ugobe!! A very gorgeous baby dinosaur

P.S Now with this PDK if someone could make the Pleo personality equivalent to Dog's life.......that would be awesome ;)

:) Emma :)

[pleoguy101]

well said, Aussie.
? For now, like Aussie said, it's mostly scratching that we can do with pleo, plus some mindless walking forward ("exploring")....

Mark0ne, I agree with you, we can never expect Pleo to be real or behave like a dinosaur... But some basic things should be corrected... Like "exploring" that pleo does--it is limited to just mindless walking forward until he finds a wall or an edge. Well, how about, with it's limited vision, finding SOME OBJECT first (or a dark spot, or a light spot), and then walking towards it to study it further? Rocky has done this actualy, when he is in my room, he walks right up to my bed and sticks his head under, "and of course it is darker under there" and stans there looking under my bed into the darkeness for maybe 20 minutes:)o that there is at least some sense in the "exploration."
How about having Pleo develop some preferences for colors? Like my pleo will be fond of yellow, so that I can feed him with dandelions or whatever.. And yours will like red, because once he saw your red sleepers and was very impressed, so that now he falls asleep whenever he is near red...? You know what I mean? There are ways to think this through and be creative with limited technology. It's good that Pleo likes to be scratch, but we definetly imagined more than this when we looked at the box in the store, right? I'm going back to where you said ( finding SOME OBJECT first or a dark spot, or a light spot, and then walking towards it to study it further?)Rocky has done this actualy, when he is in my room, he walks right up to my bed and sticks his head under, "and of course it is darker under there" and stands there looking under my bed into the darkeness for maybe 20 minutes:)

[Mark0ne]

I agree with you all - i would love the suggestions of investigating his surroundings. I think part of the problem is that Ugobe's statements of "reacts and adapts to his environments" and "capable of evolving" and "self aware" are very broad sweeping statements that include a whole spectrum of behaviours. We as robot enthusiast tend to take these staements and run a mile with them becasue we simply want them to be true. (and I am not picking fault with anyone here)

Take the first statement of "reacts and adapts to his environment".
Pleo will stop when he reaches an obstacle and will navigate around it. He reaches a wall and stops and turns to go in another direction. (My pleo has on a number of occasions walked from one room into another, navigating around two corners in the process.) If I placed a large object in his way and blocked off that route he would 'see' this and stop the next time around. So right there he has 'technically' fulfilled that criteria.

Capable of evolving
Well my pleo cant do the 'ta-da' trick at first , after a few attempts he gets better. He used to just wail for attention - even after the 1.1 update. Today for the first time - 3 days after the update - he used a song instead and uses it more often now. My friend bought one for his 9 year old son who now ignores it most of the time. Their pleo wanders around with his head hung down making mournful sounds most of the time. He rarely calls out even when he gets boxed in or stuck. So you could say mine and their pleo have 'evolved' in different ways.

Self aware
Hold Pleo up by his tail and he will squirm and complain. Touch pleo and he will 'know' this and react accordingly - even begging for more attention. Turn pleo upside down and he doesnt like it and complains until putting him on his feet. Ignore pleo enough and he can become 'depresed'. So you could say he is aware of himself.

Autonomous
Well you cant control pleo with a remote and he doesnt need you controlling him to tell him to move forwards, stop at a wall, back up and turn, and walk forwards again. So he has fulfilled that criteria.

So in effect pleo has fulfilled all the promises on the box - just in a VERY limited way. I did some research before buying pleo and never heard them once promise something or an action that pleo hasn't already done. Certainly more complex behavour could be read into those statements, but is that Ugobe's fault, or mine for wanting to believe more and perhaps imagining or wanting to believe he could do more complex things and in effect allowing myself to be led on? They never promised object recognition or even said he would be updated to include this or ever be capapble of this as one example. When they said he could wander off on his own to explore they never said he would be able to fixate on things or areas.

Unfortunately when things are marketed, companies tend to use all these wonderful, descriptive words without pointing out the limitattions of their product within those descriptions, as we all know. I think some of the ideas that are bieng thought of here are great. Particularly the investigate dark, light areas and objects. even the colour recognition could possibly be done with the technology. But we can't hold Ugobe responsible for us buying Pleo and 'our' disapointment at it not fulfilling all our dreams and expectations yet and blaming them by saying it is false advertisement on the box.

I am not saying this to enflame anyone or cause argumnent or pick on anyone or put them down. I am not saying these things as a personal attack on anyone!! I myself tend to think Pleo cant do half the things I expected of him. But I realise that expectation was born inside MY mind - I was expecting, or perhaps hoping for far too much. After ordering him I was picturing pleo following me, or at least anything moving, walking neatly around corners, poking his head into every nook and cranny, searching for his leaf, learning the layout of a room, finding a patch of sunlight on the carpet and laying down in it, snapping at me occasionaly because he simply coudn't be bothered, even sometimes actively walking away from my touch and ignoring me, etc. Again I got these ideas from the descriptions placed on him and imagining the things he could do. Ugobe are only responsible for not telling us what he COULDN't do. But lets face it, what company in the toy/entertainment/gadget area ever really does? It would be commercial suicide!!

[Aussie_Pleo]

Great comments there MarkOne :)

In essence I'd be happy with a longer battery life (or at least the availability of a spare). For me the real killer is the 1 hour play/4.5 hour charge. It removes the realism and interaction.

I enjoy Pleo, he's not what I expected true but he's an amazing thing regardless.

[andreivc]

I agree with all your points, Mark0ne, but one...
we as consumers, like you correctly pointed out, always get hyped and like suckers buy things that don't meet our expectations. What I don't understand is why are we always blaming ourselves for it, like the company's marketing had nothing to do with it? We blame it on industry standards and common practicies and our wishfull thinking--anything, but the company who's marketing actually have lead us to have unreasonable expectations in the first place... ? What about higher standards for our business? What about ethics? Or isn't our business good enough anymore to be able to describe the product in more realistic statements? The point is, if we hold our businesses to lower standards, they will perform accordingly. And that is what's happening. Something is wrong with this system - something has to change. Calling them on their bluff is the first step.

[andreivc]

Like Aussie quoted somewhere from the Ugobe's site, they claimed that pleo would be interested in your canary???? he cannot even see or hear big me talking to him! how more deceptive can advertising get?

[Mark0ne]

I agree with all your points, Mark0ne, but one...
we as consumers, like you correctly pointed out, always get hyped and like suckers buy things that don't meet our expectations. What I don't understand is why are we always blaming ourselves for it, like the company's marketing had nothing to do with it? We blame it on industry standards and common practicies and our wishfull thinking--anything, but the company who's marketing actually have lead us to have unreasonable expectations in the first place... ? What about higher standards for our business? What about ethics? Or isn't our business good enough anymore to be able to describe the product in more realistic statements? The point is, if we hold our businesses to lower standards, they will perform accordingly. And that is what's happening. Something is wrong with this system - something has to change. Calling them on their bluff is the first step.

;)
Well said Andreivic - I don't think I ever heard it so well put!!! ;)
But in practise is it really realistic....?
If Ugobe had marketed PLeo as "adaptive to his environment - he will see a wall and back up slowly and gradully turn to avoid it."
"self aware - he knows when you TOUCH him and will wag his tail! or go to sleep and stop moving"
"evolve which means he will be quieter in the future if you ignore him"
"responsive - he will react in three differnet ways to three different areas of his body"
- woulld you really have bought him for $350? Would anyone if you pointed out all the 'negatives' without first enjoying any of his positives? I doubt I would have.
Better to leave it to the imagination and a willingness to suspend disbelief to hopefully cover any of the gaps.
Ugobe are ultimately in it for the money - if only to enable funding for more research and developement to design future personal robots/toys that ARE nearer what we really want. No government will ever fund a company to delevope a 'toy', and the public are very prudent with their money when it comes to a company asking to just give them money in the hopes of getting a great product 10 years down the road.
They HAVE to sell a lot of pleos to continue - and that means letting us believe what we want before we buy their product.
Wrong? yes when you really look at it.

[Mark0ne]

Like Aussie quoted somewhere from the Ugobe's site, they claimed that pleo would be interested in your canary???? he cannot even see or hear big me talking to him! how more deceptive can advertising get?

That statement seems to ring a bell for me too. But I think it was more in the context of " we are comitted to developing independent behaviour to the point where he will be able to go off and inestigate your (the interviewee shrugs) your say canary,"
I don't think he was making a statment of what pleo can do now or that he was even meaning this current model even. But I am not sure, it was way back in my research, just hte impression I got.

[Aussie_Pleo]

That statement seems to ring a bell for me too. But I think it was more in the context of " we are comitted to developing independent behaviour to the point where he will be able to go off and inestigate your (the interviewee shrugs) your say canary,"
I don't think he was making a statment of what pleo can do now or that he was even meaning this current model even. But I am not sure, it was way back in my research, just hte impression I got.

No actually MarkOne the canary statement is on the Pleo World home page here http://www.pleoworld.com/discover/evolution/section/juvenile

[Mark0ne]

hmm - I also remember a video of, i think, the guy who says "pleo is on the move!" mentioning something about a canary? I don't know, I watched LOADS of 'making of' vids and read lots of interviews before buying one!! (maybe its an in UGBOE joke or something" but they shouldn't be saying that if he can't.)

So UGOBE - how do you answer to this statement? You guys DO read these forums right?

Actually again this is bieng a sneaky statement The statement on the website doesnt actually say that Pleo has taken notice of your canary , just asking if YOU THINK he has - lol Again, possibly a marketing ploy to inspire you to use your imagination with Pleo........but definately misleading!!

And is it just me - or does anyone else find this just plain wierd? How many of us out there actually have a canary? And knowing pleos limited camera range - why did they draw attention to an animal that is kept behind bars at an altitude of around five feet off the floor on a cage stand? Anything at pleos hieght on the ground would find it (nearly) impossible to see into the cage anyway?!! Surely a more realistic question would have been "is he scared of your dog/cat?" Is this a joke??!! Maybe its meant to be an amusing annecdotal question relating to pets in general?

[Aussie_Pleo]

My point with that statement by Ugobe is the suggestion that Pleo is capable to differentiate what it sees (aka the use of a canary as opposed to just saying "is he scared of what's in front of him"). This and other clever statements has the buyer assuming that Pleo's abilities are beyond what they actually are and that it is more interactive than what it actually is.

[Mark0ne]

I agree with you on the "canary" statement. LOL - just typing that is ridiculous. A CANARY??!! I will be interested to see what UGOBE say about this!!!

[ryane]

you guys are way off topic here. lets post and read about the latest update not about bashing pleo and it's obviously talented creators.

[Mark0ne]

you guys are way off topic here. lets post and read about the latest update not about bashing pleo and it's obviously talented creators.


I agree ryane - but if you read further back you would see I have actually been DEFENDING Ugobe!!!;)

But how can I defend against this? Really? We have to be realistic about his abilities or we risk losing all credibilty to those who don't yet own a PLeo of their own!! I would recommend anyone to invest in a pleo and therefore UGOBE themselves. I think their dream is one very close to my own heart!! But I would be honest about Pleo too. What is wrong with that?

Don't get me wrong - I think my PLeo is amazing and keep him going as much as possible - I am on my third charge today!!

Peace everyone - but this has gone far enough I think. Marketing and its merits/pitfalls are a disussion for another day!!

[ryane]

i've been here since day one. i joined the forum back in june and got my fi